The question is still there for me.

When is anger not a form of violence.

Either directed at yourself or others.

Is there any situation where where anger has to be used because there is no other option?

Anger is a quality, that when directed at you from someone else, enters the body, and you then manifest it outward continuing its life cycle.

We have large deposits of anger within to draw up on, just bang your head into the corner of a cup-board or something to wake it.

When anger is generated from within, during contemplation, this is also a form of violence. Either directed at yourself or other.

The things that arise anger within, (either you feel mistreated or have mistreated someone else, feel you have been short changed, are angry at the way society treats people, ect ect ect) are they themselves a continuation of / or rooted in violence I feel, and you just continue the cycle by manifesting anger within.

What do we instill in others when we choose to use anger? Is it not fear? FEAR = CONFLICT between people, continuing the cycle. Its manifest in things like patriotism, classism, all the stupid ism's.

Get angery over loosing money or possesion, rage about it. Your just dis-connected really.

A very wise man said to me once "what right do you have to be angery?"

Anger and violence in the human domain are qualitys that are being shed as consciousness continues to evolve. The standing wave form universe that we find ourselves in is not all tooth and nail, mean and bloody hierarchy based. I mean we are not loins fighting over non-sensical things (well atleast not all of us)

to me, anger = disconnection = continuation of conflict = The Great Work to be Done.

So when is anger not a form of violence?

Im pretty sure it will be rooted in violence/conflict already.

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Lions, and most wild animals for that matter, have conflict over very sensical challenges. Humans are the animal that battles over decadent illusions.

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Stunning' sorted'

Decadent illusions'

Bliss

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Still, you know.....I understand the poetic aspect of violence that is being dwelled upon here. But to me this is not the same as anger as violence.

The violence of a storm is not derived form anger (unless your one of those people who think the weather is intimately conected to the psyche of man and we will be punished by earthquakes and tornados for all our repubate behaviour and porno movies....U know who U R!)

The so called violence of birth, is it derived from anger? Maybe if the mother is hitting the father yelling "YOU DID THIS TO ME!!!" But this is just a form of violence derived from selfish anger.

I mean, the acorn metaphor is cool, but when thought out, you know, its poetic metaphor...really, the acorn doesnt have fear of its Tree nature, nothing is being destroyed..

When I ask "when is anger not a form of violence" As I stated, I am talking about the human domain, by that I mean what we feel and experience, and how we deal with each other.


Anger has not always been a part of emotional repertoire and it is highly unlikely that it will always be here. It takes inteligence to communicate thru our problems, more inteligence then strapping on a gun or jumping in a tank. basically manifesting violence thru fear. If the world is getting more inteligent (???who knows maybe this is an illusion to???) then it makes sense to me that anger and its violent deriivative will be shrinking on this planet......because people do not "naturally" behave as violent angery animals... we are changing.

We have one foot in the raw here and now tooth and blood existence....another in the energetic flow of the mysterious godhead.....GODSMACK

It took ALONG time for us to understand this, its why history was invented, so we could look back and understand, and the journey continues.

But I guess it really just comes down to the individual at this part in the game. For me, and what i have experienced in this life, the gates can not be stormed with violence and anger, they will remain shut. I do not want to embrace anger/violence. I do not carry it around as a normal healthy human constituent. I continue to try and understand its roots, how it is within me, and at every chance possible eradicate this beast by choosing not to bring it to life when it asks to be released. This is not the same as surpressing.

There has not been one single time in my life, when I have used anger and it has not cuased me grief in retro-spec.

If Dave Morrello wants to pick up a gun and go to Xizang as a Guerrilla......how is that helping? Should we all carry guns.

Communication = courage

Anger will give you Heart disease and a general all around miserable existence.
Its mechanism are chemical, its triggers are your ability to choose how to handle problems.

Ever have an MDMA "hangover"? Its easy to see how mood is regulated by chemistry. Once this is understood, the mind can over-ride the chemical and you can Cheer yourself up.