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Best pipe for dmt?

topic posted Sun, October 1, 2006 - 6:00 AM by  John
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Hi,

I am searching online to buy a pipe for dmt. Are they just like normal pot pites except made of glass?

Is this what i'm after? www.freewheelin.com.au/dry_pi..._01.htm

Cheers
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John
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  • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

    Sun, October 1, 2006 - 6:05 AM
    Oh i get it, you light underneath so if it falls through the cone, its still n the pipe and the heat vapourizes it. So does it matter what pipe you get?

    Please excuse my noobness :)
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      Thu, April 12, 2007 - 4:57 PM
      my experience is limited, but i can say the smoke is harsh as harsh can be. it's probably a good idea to run it through a water pipe. i'm not sure i'd want to inhale the smoke without cooling it off first. you can buy little crack bubbles that attach onto water pipes, or little ones designed specifically for vaporizing substances.
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    Mon, October 2, 2006 - 1:03 AM
    I've seen some crazy contraptions using the small pyrex tubes (25 / 50ml), two glass straws and a plunger with 2 holes in it. The glass straw that is the intake goes down until near the bottom of the vial, and the glass straw that is the 'exhaust' only slightly penetrates the plunger, to make sure material isnt sucked up and out. Pyrex, of course, can take the heat. The spice sits in the bottom of the vial, and is heated as normal. The whole thing disassembles easily and becomes totally ordinary.

    I remember a thread on dmtworld a few years ago that was devoted to pipes..Then again most of those people went far enought and spent enough time extracting the elfspice. I figure after going through all that trouble, why stick your philosophers powder in a $5 meth tube?

    • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

      Mon, October 2, 2006 - 2:03 AM
      Thanks guys :)

      This may seem like an odd request but are there any online vids that show someone smoking dmt? I have heard a podcast with a live dmt trip and heard a few things on youtube with people talking about dmt but for some reason i want to see someone do it :)
      • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

        Mon, October 2, 2006 - 1:45 PM
        what are anyones thoughts on using herbal vaporizors with spice?

        Like volcano or silver surfer.
        any info avaliable using something along these lines or is the heat not enough?

        i know that "maud dib" likes the makeshift gravity scenario for spice, widemouth glass slide in cork thru 2 liter lid. Cold water.
        • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

          Mon, October 2, 2006 - 4:13 PM
          From what I've heard, the small, 'true crack pipe' is least effective, you should use bigger.

          This could sound so 'crack head' fiendish of me, but I promise you that's not me.... dmt is the only crystal I have smoked.... I had to practice.

          I'd never use water to filter dmt vapour ! cooling it will make it become liquid or solid again... just wates it...

          I get "medical" with my bong; there's 50 mg to transform from a solid to a liquid to a 'gas' without spilling any !... It must deliver an exact 'dose', wasting none. I prefer to be able to see the vapour, and being able to charge up a small reservoir of it so you can see the "thickness" of the vapour-cloud. I think it helps judge that you've got enough product into a vapourized state. A 'thin' vapour means more hits to take (3 - 5), or a sub-threshold dose, and you'll leave more dmt behind.

          In my experience, a clear, approx. 75 -125 ml vol, 100% glass bong with removable stem/bowl works perfect. I use it without water; dry as a bone. I can clear 50 mg in two inhalations, going slow, adjusting heat to get the vapour white-and-thick. Before I take an entire lungful, I get a white cloud going, then clear my lungs and go-slow...

          Imagine what would a "Doctor's Bong" look like..? all 'medical looking..?" ... At least it would ensure you can tell if the full dose was taken, be easy to clean, be battery powered.? ...or be disposable, and have 'medical-grade screen technology' (..?). You might have the doctor 'size up' the chamber volume to your chest size/ lung capacity..?.. .. or maybe it would be called a "Nurse's Bong" ..?

          My lil' glass bong ... or, after a Launch, I marvel at the "Aladin's Magic Lamp" I just breathed through; I am amazed how with those two pieces of glass, I can do that ! And that there's nothing left in the bowl.. all gone..!
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            Mon, October 2, 2006 - 5:11 PM
            Afte 80^ DMT hits smoked, I would say that the best way for me is in a small glass tube about 4 inches long and as thin as a skinny straw for drinkling. I mix the dMT with some kind of burning agent like weed or whatever. Some peole call this pipe a "true crack pipe"
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      Tue, October 3, 2006 - 11:32 AM
      For all my DMT experiences in the past 7 years (10 times) I have used my glass bong and it works great! I didn't like the "crack"-pipe approach. The smoke is too harsh and hot and I started coughing right away. With the bong it's nice to collect the smoke inside the bong first and then suck it up all at once.
      I also never wasted anyting with that technique. It always pushed me far out into hyperspace. As a matter of fact I couild never finish the whole thing.
      Actually I had a converation with Danny Carey from TOOL about 7 years ago about DMT which changed my approach. He also uses the bong. Just put a screen into the bowl and some ash and sprinkle the Elf Spice on top of it. Heat it up and suck in slowly. Slow is key here. The "crack"-pipe deal is overrated.
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    Sat, March 31, 2007 - 2:34 PM
    Just having read a part of TIKHAL, the method used there was to put the spice in a spoon, heat underneath using a lighter, place an upside-down funnel over the spoon catch the smoke and inhale through the skinny end of the funnel.
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      Sun, April 1, 2007 - 12:25 AM
      wow ! was I ever long winder earlier .>! ... I have only tried dmt once since last Aug, that was Dec 28, 2006 ... so I have little practice, but let me reiterate my foolproof method:

      ... with a 'small' transparent, dry bong that has a 'carb' , you can see what's coming, and clear the chamber ... of the thick fog...

      .. and afterwards you can see what was left behind, recrystalizing on the inside of the stem and dry chamber. 50 mg can leave can leave many mg behind on a big surface area of glass.

      Try to pre heat the glass-ware on a light bulb, see if you like that ... I had a hunch that pre-warmed glass collects less residues (unlikely... ), but all heated up, it smells more to remind you of what's coming !... And I got too nervous about the smell BEFORE I launched ... so now dropped that 'ritual' ... just a dry, small transparent bong at room temp' ... ... !~@ ... !~ mmm that smell, though !
      • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

        Wed, April 4, 2007 - 2:12 AM
        I wonder if anyone has utilized a 'gravity bong'...
        Idea as follows. Obtain a plastic bottle with cover.
        Drill hole in cover sufficient to screw in bong bowl.
        Add hole to bottom of plastic bottle.
        add spice to bong (place good amount of ashes
        below spice so when it melts it doesn't go down the tube).
        Fill bottle with water (holding finger over hole in bottom of bottle).
        Gently light spice by flame over bowl while allowing water to
        escape and moderate the flame/lighting of spice...
        bottle will fill with smoke.
        Remove top of bottle and inhale spice smoke as desired...
        Have done Salvia using this technique with excellent results.
        • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

          Wed, April 4, 2007 - 2:26 PM
          It seems that there may be a couple of problems with this.
          1. The water will cool the vapor as to make it recondense and fall into the water or to the sides of your apparatus.
          2. Even if you used hot water, im not sure if all the steam and condensation would affect anything. I know that when I eat something too hot though, I choke off the steam, so that could be another concern.
          I suppose there is only one way to find out huh?
          An ounce of experience is worth a pound of theory.
          Namaste
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            Re: Best pipe for dmt?

            Wed, April 4, 2007 - 5:00 PM
            Something just struck me:

            If you can re-condense vapor, is there any way to exploit this feature in order to purify the product? Perhaps a way of vaporizing the product, running it through a standard recondenser unit, being able to figure out at what point all of the dmt is recondensed, and having a filter afterwards to catch the impurities, then use a solvent to wash out the now totally pure dmt, and recrystalize?
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              Re: Best pipe for dmt?

              Thu, April 5, 2007 - 5:07 PM
              sounds like a nice small simple bong is the way to go!!!

              time to invest in one i guess! :)

              bongs are just an all round excellent tool for heads in general.
              • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                Mon, April 16, 2007 - 10:53 PM
                Bong = Wrong. Check on Entheogen Review, 2-3 years back. They illustrate what is known as "The Machine". It is said to be easy to make, with a carbide drill bit, small hennesey bottle, steel wool and a little patience. Supposedly it is better than any pipette, crack pipe, and especially a bong. You would lose way to much with a bong.

                2 cents,

                G
                • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                  Fri, April 20, 2007 - 3:41 AM
                  Do not, under any circumstance, place steel wool in or around an open flame. Attempting to use steel wool as a filter, base, or other "medium" while smoking will produce a very negative and possibly harmful effect. Steel wool is flammable and smolders very easily under minimal heat or conductive circumstances. Steel wool vapors are NOT something you want to inhale.

                  If you do not know what you are talking about please keep your advice to yourself. Misinformation is more lethal than any legal or illegal substance. Spreading knowledge and awareness of the world around you will keep more people safely cared for throughout their lives. Being responsible means taking into consideration the well being of every being you come into contacts with - including your self.

                  -me
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                    Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                    Fri, April 20, 2007 - 11:40 AM
                    Steel wool, works, period. I have seen it in use for a few years. You don't apply the flame directly to it, but away from it.

                    G
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                      Fri, April 20, 2007 - 12:31 PM
                      <<Steel wool, works, period. >>
                      yes, crackheads LOVE chore boy.

                      <<I have seen it in use for a few years.>>
                      well, that's about as damned scientific as we get around here. short-term subjective results!! woo hoo!!

                      <<You don't apply the flame directly to it, but away from it. >>
                      seriously?
                    • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                      Fri, April 20, 2007 - 12:44 PM
                      Mystical D, Gwyllm actually does know what he's talking about. Give him some due credit. Technically, Gwyllm is correct in stating that it should be safe when not applying the flame directly, but it would be hard not to heat up the steel wool to a point where it releases some particles, regardless of how experienced you are.

                      Problem is also that most people wouldn't think anything of it though and chances for getting sloppy even with those that are in the know are quite probable. Because of this, I personally don't consider the method Gwyllm is describing as the "best" one out there. Even though it may work for some, purely for safety reasons, I recommend against it.

                      People swear by all sorts of methods; whatever they're used to, essentially. A small glass/pyrex bubble pipe works like magic and is as safe as it gets. So why take risks and bother with anything else?

                      Respect,
                      d.
                      • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                        Fri, April 20, 2007 - 7:09 PM
                        All you are interested is in vaporizing the magick dust. If you all think that the steel wool is wacked, fine. Try a mesh screen with it, or go with a glass pipe/pipette.

                        I do suggest you look up the article, (everything can always be improved upon and it should!) if you can't find it, let me know off list and I will send it along.

                        Blessings,

                        Gwyllm
                      • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

                        Wed, April 25, 2007 - 2:31 AM
                        I cannot give anyone due credit when they are using a method that, regardless of how careful one is, will most certainly lead someone to certain disaster. The unexperienced and underage read this forum - with that in mind maybe we could be a little more careful of the vague instructions that are laid bare here. The last thing anyone needs is some 15 year old kid with his hands in a RC supplier trying to smoke "DMT" out of a pipe lined with steel wool. Next thing you know there is a kid in a hospital from toxic inhalation of fumes and burns on his lips and mouth from molten steel being sucked in.

                        Crackheads, for as stupid and desperate as they can be, use Brass-O pads, which do not melt under "normal" flame conditions. This would have been a suitable expressed method simply due to the dummy-proof flashpoint of the metal.

                        Since the flame is not supposed to really touch the crystals in the first place maybe suggesting something inert would be more appropriate. Take parsley for example... completely non-psychoactive, 99% safe to smoke (1% reserved for the act of smoking being harmful), readily available in most kitchen cabinets and likely to not contain trace industrial metal fabrication chemicals.

                        With all the discussion over the couple percentage points of Tannins and other residues why not be as exact and demanding on the ingestion of that hard-earned pure powder?
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                          Wed, April 25, 2007 - 7:16 AM
                          Mystica D, I do not disagree with you. My preference goes also to glass.

                          Gwyllm sent me a file which details what he was in fact referring to, and it seems he wasn't completely thourough in his earlier explanation. The information he sent me describes the method in greater detail. It involves the use of coase steel wool which won't catch fire anywhere near as easily as fine steel wool. The document also describes the additional safety measure of washing the steel wool in acetone beforehand in order to remove any industrial chemicals such as rust repellants (which are highly toxic).

                          This is, for all intended purposes, not for everyone.
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                          Thu, April 26, 2007 - 8:07 PM
                          I will happily send the files over to you so you can understand what I referenced. This pipe design was featured in the Entheogen Review in 2003, based on a design used for many years in Australia, without any known incidents that you are concerned about. I have no idea how people smoke crack, so you really have me there. Something that I have never tried, nor been around.

                          If you want to send me an email addy, I will happily send the article over.

                          Bright Blessings,

                          Gwyllm
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                            Sat, May 5, 2007 - 6:58 PM
                            Thanks for sending that file. After looking it over and discussing it with my brother we decided that what is being referenced in this guide is not your everyday average "course" steel wool you get at the hardware store at all. This is the stainless steel scrubber pads that you would find in your kitchen section at the grocery. Very course and not easy to ignite with a lighter. The only difference between this technique or the "crack" method that I've seen is the metal being used (brass or stainless).

                            For a reference note:

                            Crack is a freebase form of cocaine made by basifying the Hcl, which turns the powder into a hard rock. It melts into the metal the same as the DMT does and will flow in the direction of gravity as heat is applied. Only real difference that can be noted is the boiling point of the chemical in use. DMT has a very low BP and thus does not like a high level of heat applied before the chemical bonds are disrupted.

                            -me
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                              Sun, May 6, 2007 - 10:27 AM
                              I have used for a while with very good success a Smoke Bubble to vaporize 5 Meo DMT. But my Bubble got broken and i have got in between 3 new one which each of them i had the same Problem. When the Powder get liquid it starts to flow away from the Heat of the Flame and its difficult to get enough of the Magic Powder vaporized.

                              Any Ideas why this can be?
          • Re: Best pipe for dmt?

            Sun, May 6, 2007 - 9:13 PM
            It's not going to be there long enough to recondense!
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              Re: Best pipe for dmt?

              Thu, May 31, 2007 - 9:09 PM
              If everything goes according to plan, SWIM should be making his first attempt in the near future. He will probably try the dry bong or glass pipe method, as these seem to be popular as well as cheap and simple. The spoon and funnel method also seems like it might be worth trying. SWIM has used this method before to smoke hash oil. He would have to try to find a pyrex funnel or glass pipette though because he is paranoid about using plastic, even if it won't come into contact with the flame.
              This may seem like a stupid question, but where would one place the lighter? I have heard of it being applied to the bottom of a glass pipe. Wouldn't this soon make the pipe very hot, making it easy to burn one's hands or mouth? Do you just let the flame "hover" over the bowl or place it on the side of the bowl? So parsely can be placed underneath the spice? Would it be a good idea to put a small amount on top of the spice as well, so as to offer added protection against incineration? Would one use a regular lighter or some type of torch?
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    Sun, August 26, 2007 - 7:42 PM
    IThis may sound crass, but I just smoked it on foil with an empty pen for a tube. The key is controling the heat and not making more smoke than you can suck up. I've never done 3 hits, usually after the second one I'm not aware of my existence, let alone what to do with a lighter and foil. Simply called- chasing the dragon.

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