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For some reason, when indoors, eyes open during DMT trance. The dmt space appears to be set up to look like a GRAND presentation. For me, all the furniture, everything really, transforms into a scene that is just un-denialbly filled with themes of Gods and higher powers.
I always feel like im in some kind of holy temple, that radiates very colourful themes of egyptian and Mayan.
Like the last time I went under.
The round mirror up high on the wall, became the sun. Everything in the room became some kind of zany looking creature, and they were either worshipping the SUN as a god, or trying to point my attention towards it. Below the mirror is a curtain. This transformed into a woman climbing a pole to be nearer the sun, also at the bottom of the pole were hoards of men who wanted to breed with her, she was struggling to get away.
The whole scene looked and felt like it was the story of the humans and there realtionship to the almighty GOD, it was undeniable. it was set up to look like our collective Myth.
95% of my being was in complete awe at the power of this GOD that I was witnessing. (Not the mirror but whatever was creating the whole eperience. But part of me thought, why do I always end up at this heavenly temple GOD house when I try DMT.
Its as tho its some kind of program that is in us. When we get to close to it, it over whelms us with its absolute power. It seems like a safety net that whoever made us and this universe has installed in us, so if we get to close we will bow down.
And who cant but be stricken to their soul at its absolute power. Its what is driving religion in the first place.
But for some reason, I found it artificial?? I felt like it was there to fool me? Its so fucking ZANY and weird.
I always feel like im in some kind of holy temple, that radiates very colourful themes of egyptian and Mayan.
Like the last time I went under.
The round mirror up high on the wall, became the sun. Everything in the room became some kind of zany looking creature, and they were either worshipping the SUN as a god, or trying to point my attention towards it. Below the mirror is a curtain. This transformed into a woman climbing a pole to be nearer the sun, also at the bottom of the pole were hoards of men who wanted to breed with her, she was struggling to get away.
The whole scene looked and felt like it was the story of the humans and there realtionship to the almighty GOD, it was undeniable. it was set up to look like our collective Myth.
95% of my being was in complete awe at the power of this GOD that I was witnessing. (Not the mirror but whatever was creating the whole eperience. But part of me thought, why do I always end up at this heavenly temple GOD house when I try DMT.
Its as tho its some kind of program that is in us. When we get to close to it, it over whelms us with its absolute power. It seems like a safety net that whoever made us and this universe has installed in us, so if we get to close we will bow down.
And who cant but be stricken to their soul at its absolute power. Its what is driving religion in the first place.
But for some reason, I found it artificial?? I felt like it was there to fool me? Its so fucking ZANY and weird.
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 12:28 AM
But for some reason, I found it artificial?? I felt like it was there to fool me?
Bro I feel you' but am also feeling that due to the filters on our mind' the spice is the true experience and this slow slog through our perceptions is artificial' but because we abide here all the time' webelievethis illusion over the truth'
I call these spice entities "Shaman"
All the furnishings become charactures' all showing and teaching something' all part and parcel of the great dragon' each little segment/furnishing/characture' but a tiny scale on the body of this mighty dragon'
The words magic and wizard spring instantly to mind' as if being thrown through the looking glass and attempting to view this dimension from another perspective' Space becomes tangible' time dialates' conciousness begins to coil into the 5th' losing the tether anchor of body memories' this is of when the great dragon flexes and shivers her scales'
Great account of expressing the unexpressable there brother'
As a waft of spice comes accross the nostrils :)))
Healing and good energies to you'
Bliss
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 6:22 AMI was not (and unfortunately, have not yet tried the spice) on the spice, but, the herb was quite nice.....
the elf that appeared then shifted 3rd gear
he it she spit, "your laughing at me!"
"how can I not? your shifting like snot!"
and then a lamp, and a funny shape, a lot like a phone..
though I was silent, I knew I wasn't alone...
so I picked up a pen, and said to my hand (as the elf imitated this too),
"write what I need"
and my hand wrote:
"if this world is so funny, why is it real? Is it real? if it's not, why is it here?"
my hand kept writing, but with a guise: "your world is all about you"
"about me?" (the shadow slipped of like a green glove),
and back on: "your world evolves/revolves around you, it is you, you are it, your environment evolves around you as you revolve around it, your are within you as your world is about you..."
Basically, the world shifts around you as you shift within it. It IS about you, it is within you.
This was some actual "automatic writing" that I experienced..."
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 8:14 AMNice shadoan'
"Your shifitng like snot" ha ha ha'
I got'
"The light you see shines on you from within' there is no thing external to your experience'
All is within you' all is you' you are everything' All within Mind'
Mind bends conciousness into perception of matter' without 'Mind' there is only endless' infinite probabilities'
You create your reality by the way you observe it'
Everything is but light in vibration'
Each individuals pocket of percetion of "reality" as a bubble' grasped out of infinite probabilities' anchored by gravity/memory'
All these bubbles bouncing about the void of enedless probabilities' like gas bubbles in a glass of cola aid'
The bubble is born at the bottom and slowly grows rising to the top' then pop! the bubble trancends the water phase and immulses with the rest of the air/light'
Until it is captured again and re-bottle' ready to be birthed at the bottom of the glass' to start it's journey all over again :)))
Hence perception of reality is the way in which you grasp the bubble to create it'
Without you there is no bubble' no reality'
Bliss
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 9:58 AMI get this feeling that we are indeed in a bubble. And within this extremely idyosyncratic bubble, we are free to experience all possible things so long long as they are within this bubble/universe.
You get the impression that it doesnt matter if you live your life as a holy man, or an army general, all experience within this bubble is a blessing and sacred.
When you approach the very edge of this bubble, which I feel DMT helps facilitate. It appears that you are up against an absolute power, that all existence of this bubble we call home/universe is really tethered somehow to it, and is in fact being generated from it.
The last time I was up against the edge, the power of the DMT was so absolute, belly of the beast so to speak, it gave me the impression of the man behind the curtain" in the wizard of OZ.
It wanted nothing except for me to acknowledge its power, show me how it was in control of everything here in this universe/bubbble. Every single thing that we have experienced and can experience will essentialy be contained within this bubble it creates for us.
I felt like if I were to believe this absolte power and its authority, I would somehow be destined to remain in this universe/bubble, being reborn to do it again.
But to leave the bubble, would mean certain death.........to go where would be impossible to phathom because everything we can imagine is ultimately part of our idyosyncratic fractal bubble existence universe, nothing from outside of it can enter, and nothing from within can leave.
Atleast thats what it wants me to belive?
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Wed, March 25, 2009 - 10:20 AMYes brother' you have met the beast' made of photon and atom'
In order to get out of this bubble you have to get past photon and collapse the particle into a wave' then the wave rolls out of this bubble and is able to create another one as a photon particle again'
Everything inside outside outside inside' out' from sphere photon to flat 1dimentional wave' gently bending at right angles to it's path through dimensional space' reaching of the 6th to return to point of creation again'
The two sides of the coil' running to the 6th sphere of creation'
For this time the coil is tied by gravity to 3d'-4d'
When we get to transcend this realm' we turn coil into the 5th and then become sphere photon' the photon collapses into a particle wave' hence starting the ball rolling all over again from the 7th creation point'
6 dimentional space x 2' = 12
12 x2 = 24
2+4 = 6
Start all over again'
Unless you can get past the rules of DNA light reflections'
This great beast seen as the light reflection off of all DNA'
The dragon of creation'
Bliss
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 7:17 PMyou know, I had to read your post man times for it to sink in and turn into mental imagery.
I dont know much about spheres of creation, but I can envision myself collapsing the photon into wave.
The DMT space feels as tho it is on the verge of this collapse, just ready to burst, maybe it is possible that I wasnt pushed far enough into it to have a full collapse?
"Unless you can get past the rules of DNA light reflections"
yeah, thats what it felt like. It was so idyosyncratic it felt in-escapable, as tho one could not get past the rules because they pertained to the whole.
"This great beast seen as the light reflection off of all DNA'"
Ive read people say that the DMT experience makes them feel under-ground or in a cavern. I felt as tho under the belly of the beast.
This beast was constructed of the entire career of humanity, or the career of DNA as you say.
The power of this thing is emmence, no matter how much I prepare my mind, I get alot of fear before I choose to go look at it.
But I still cant get my head around the whole hierarchy set-up, its displays of power and scenes of people and things bowing in its precence?
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Wed, March 25, 2009 - 10:34 PM
The DMT space feels as tho it is on the verge of this collapse, just ready to burst, maybe it is possible that I wasnt pushed far enough into it to have a full collapse?
Our light bodies are intrinsinsicly tied to the gravity of our sun' to attempt to go any further than' verge of collapse' it becomes a void experience'
The likes of you get chucked into the centre of the sun' thrown in the middle of a massive sphere of no thing' with all light far out on the edges'
Attempts to "punch" through this "Star" seems impossible to me' is impossible' unless I die'
There is immence diamond hard raw power' of which is the likes of getting splatted against the surface of a sphere' a bit like a gold fish in a bowl' attempting to push through the glass' this is the point at which the "spice" tells me off' throws all my fears at me' tells me of how insignificant I really am to the grand scale of things' at this point the only internal imagery is blinding white light' the likes of a massive star' then everything goes immensly flat and "Huge" oh so freaking void fully big' No telling if eyes are open or closed at this point' or if still living in this gravity suit' all energies inwards to a point' outwards to "Infinity" gently curved towardsthe infinite edges' (ha ha ha' infinity has no edge)
I have been told folks broke through this stage and ended up somewhere else' for myself' I find it impossible' when I break through' I become just light' flying cosmic rays of sunshine' then kind of flow through flat dimensional plains' going upwards' then at right angles to this direction' then at right angles to this' gently' as if running geometry from point' straight line' right angle' triangle' square' coil' sphere'
Then it all collapses and starts again'
The age old service to the sun giver of life' everything all paying homage to the essence of the structure that everything is made of'
Light !
For some reason us psycho-nauts wish to get past light' past the photons and atoms that hold us in form and transcend to somewhere'
This somewhere I have no clue of becasue all is light in vibration'
Perhaps it is an inherant trait of "Conciousness" to return to the "Wow" moment of begining' the moment of conception of conciousnss out of the void' or perhaps it is just the electron of the atom that gives conciousness and the draw is the pull of the nuclei' the negative charge of the atom' spice enables mind to experience the exchange between the two' and we seek to always sit within the balance' neither posatively or negatively charged' perhaps this realm is created through the balance of the posative and negative charge of the atom' and the posative charge is the conciousness of the universe we live in' matter being bent into existence by' MIND'
MIND having the ability to bend the posative charge' hence holding the negative charge in stasis'
More journeys and thoughts on this subject me thinks'
She says'
I am you' you are me'
Magnified'
he he he'
Bliss
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 6:17 AM"Our light bodies are intrinsinsicly tied to the gravity of our sun' to attempt to go any further than' verge of collapse' it becomes a void experience' "
this yesterday, I was going through this series of existences... i was solving gate riddles, and flipping between dimensions...
and I knew I had made a turn away from solving the central riddle... a woman distracted me...
and yet, i saw that that was one of "the" points too...
The turn I forgot to make, was realizing that behind the number 4 gate, with it's plus sign 90 degree grid symbol was the "Sun"
Symbol for Sole' in a lot of ancient cultures is what looks like a square (window) with a cros in it.
I think part of me is scared of this + sign
too many people get hung on it...
and yet, that too is another point to be gotten.
like a thorn hung bug, waiting to be eaten by a bird...
I was the ant on the tip of the leaf...
and Shiva said to me...
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:13 AMOooooh yes it was/is flowing'
I feel like I have returned from a very long journey and am able to bend it all again :))) Thank you' Thank you both for stretching it'
This + is actualy deep stuff' the universal 9'
90=9
180=9
270=9
360=9
If you split it again with a X'
You get'
45=9
90=9
135=9
180=9
225=9
270=9
315=9
360=9
This gives the square with + in the middle'
It is the symbol of a sphere'
The sphere of creation :)))
The sign of the Sun X+ (stick the + over the X )'
Because of 3 dimensional space has 4 sides' the symbol is shown of the 4th dimension'
the square'
Or the rectangle of creation' coiled'
So we get' point 0' straight 1' right angle2' triangle 3' square 4' coil 5' sphere 6'
The sphere devided by the triangle gives 2'
Two sides of the coil'
Held by gravity in 3d-4d'
Life is a snake from tail to head' as of when we drop the body' the snake turns it head and eats it's tail' coiling into the 5th' then turns 90 into the sphere of creation'
The Sun ! !
he he he'
There is no such thing as death' only a transference of energy through dimensional space back to the sphere of creation' reflected' point'
Then it starts all over again'
Bliss
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:24 AMI notice Sally to throw me the other way'
She splits the two sides of the coil' hence leaving you in 2 dimensional space'
The 4 dimensional space with matter held in 3 d'
Sally splits the two hemisphers of the brain' hence leaving perceptions' half sided'
From 4 dimensional space split down the middle gives 2d'
A flat piece of paper folded through the middle at 90'
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:31 AMlike a thorn hung bug, waiting to be eaten by a bird...
I was the ant on the tip of the leaf...
and Shiva said to me...
Breath
breath
don't forget to breath.....
And that is freakin awesome brother' this is the impending feeling of a break through on spice'
Keep breathing or the mighty dragon of creation is going to eat you :)))
Awesome Shadoan'
Bliss
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:37 AM
So we get' point 0' straight 1' right angle2' triangle 3' square 4' coil 5' sphere 6'
The sphere devided by the triangle gives 2'
Two sides of the coil'
Held by gravity in 3d-4d' + the 2 sides of the coil makes 9'
+
Sphere of creation plus 3 = 9
It takes a man and a woman to give birth to a child'
Man 1
Woman 1
Child 1
= 3' plus the sphereof creation 6 = 9'
The number of the DNA molecule is 111' times' Man 1' woman 1 child 1 = 3 x 3 = 9'
If you add the number of the DNA molecule to the number it takes to create a child you get 6'
The sphere of creation = 6'
Bliss'
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 6:13 AM"But I still cant get my head around the whole hierarchy set-up, its displays of power and scenes of people and things bowing in its precence? "
I often ponder the series of notes that (at first) we seem stuck within...
and as soon as I think I have it solved, I realize I have 10 fingers, and if I had 12 I would count differently..
and even then, i really only have 8 fingers, and 2 thumbs.
it is what louis sullivan pondered with his "seed of pattern series" and what happens when you make one change in a formula..
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Wed, March 25, 2009 - 10:49 PMNice stuff Shadoan' is it possible to run that combo backwards' Um' I mean forewards from 0-9' then it collapses and the 1 becomes a reflection of 0' to start all over again'
Blissings
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 6:19 AMblissful musings Nobu!
did we all just have a wild vision yesterday? was the galactic gas flowing! i think so
sew
sooooooooooo
soma
some
ommmmmmmmm
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 7:54 AMCinn'
But for some reason, I found it artificial?? I felt like it was there to fool me? Its so fucking ZANY and weird.
Yes! and this then posses the question of what actualy is real/artificial' it is but a perception'
It all feels like a machine to me' the closer we get to the essence of life' it becomes mechanical' no longer organic' completely unbreakable machine' made of raw energy' exchanging information through grid systems of photon paths'
The paths are always the same' it is just the information traveling along these "strands" changes'
The basis of which is "procreation" to further the viewing eyes of the machine'
The conciousness that is the energy and light of this great machine is the Suns of the galaxies' and becasue we are in close proximity of our Sun' our conciousness is the the conciousness of our Sun ! !
And now all the spirits get up and "Bow" homage to the giver of life'
All the elves are clapping :)))
This God of creation' the giver of life is our Sun'
The father the Sun'
The mother the earth'
The moon the child'
Even the Pope said that "Jesus" is our Sun'
The God of creation of everything in our universe would be the original "Wow" point of matter' created out of the void'
Gravity ?
I have had a very strong conviction for quite sometime now' that this God of all creation is "Gravity"
Zero point gravity in the void holds all of this together'
he he he'
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 8:27 AMPipe confers'
The wow effect of creation of the universe gave of light of which is focused though the suns of the galaxies'
Light the "Father"
Gravity the mother' becasue gravity gives birth'
Gravity gave birth to the light of conciousness'
Of which then created "atom" of which gave birth to life'
Life' the child'
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 10:53 AMNobuoni, you are really on another level brother! i'd love to walk around in your head for a few hours...sadly I'd probably be hopelessly lost after only a few minutes tho. lol Are these things your speaking of cognitive or more of a feeling? I really don't know how to word the question any other way so hope it makes sense. -
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 11:05 AMCinnamonowski: swim has never experienced a dmt trip quite like what your talking about. Invariably he is transported to inner or outerspace...with one exception. On this occasion swim opened his eyes to a room flowing in colors of green and orange, walls melting into the floor and becoming one, all in constant motion except the space the room was composed of. There were two entities, one with an orange light glowing within her chest, who stayed the same throughout and beckoned him. The other was swimming through the air and changing shape as it flowed like some picasso fish.
I'd love to find meaning in some of these experiences but can't seem to pin anything down...
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Thu, March 26, 2009 - 11:21 AMCognitive and worked through with the aid of "Spice"
Out there is real good' he he he
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 3:19 PMMEANING!!!!
For some reason, DMT (most psychedelics actually) fill me with meaning, themes of Heaven(s) Saints, Shamans, Basically the Spirit Quest of all humanity with all of its discoverys pertaining to.
And it shows me these things thru other cultures eyes and secures in me the realization that all cultures ultimatley are steering toward the same conclusion.
Which, as of late I have been suspect of..?!
It seems to me, that all that can be known is here for us to experience. But as soon as I try to penetrate beyond my whats allowed by DNA, I am confronted with these themes of "its" ulmighty power.
Like I said earlier, it seems to me that this GOD experience is somehow hard-wired into the DNA, but can it be trusted?
Nobuoni alwas calls its reflection. To me this implies wholeness, as if we are trapped within this whole!
We are stuck in the world of photons and atoms and the mind of DNA and wave collapses,........but is that really were we belong?
When confronted with the DMT reality and its absolute power, does it really love us, or is it just a program built within to have us bow down?
For years I was a believer and thought of it as the ultimate and tried hard to spread the message, saw it everywhere around me unfolding, I thought it was the ultimate truth......but now I question?
Why is it asking to be acknowledge as powerful, why does it inspire me to want to think of it as all powerful?
The fact that i am starting to question must mean something.
Im 99% sure that to go beyond it would mean death........but trully what "the creator" made can never be destroyed.
What if giving this thing the title it wants as all powerful, will give you a spot on the reincarnation bus back to 3D universe to try again?
Not so bad really.
Something just isnt sitting right with me about this as of late.
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Re: I kept thinking it was posing
Thu, March 26, 2009 - 3:23 PMActuall LSD does not much spiritual for me.
Its all conspiracy theorys, lizard people, and dolophins jumping out of the carpet, my dog turning into aztec prince and weird stuff 8) -
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Sat, March 28, 2009 - 11:09 AMYES!!
It took a friend to open me to that concept after the first few times.
I always wanted to talk of the sacred geometry I was "seeing".
He finally asked me, "Yeah, but what do you "feel" when you are there?".
I soon as I returned with my awareness on my feelings the whole experience changed.
Extreme downloads of information that would take a lifetime to convey in words. A greater understanding of my emotions as frequency on a scale like the spectrum of light, or music (as I now believe all things exist within there own spectrum of the Great Spectrum). Light vibration language.
I was shifted beyond the geometry into the void for the first time.
I have a strong feeling of the beliefs in Zen Buddhism.
Every action, which begins in thought, born of ispiration, all the way up to the main vibration, can be made aware of (in theory).
They even turned drinking tea into ceremony.
When entering these realms it is important to be as aware as you are able.
Aware of your intent before entering. Aware of your breath as it finds time with the rhythm of the frequency with which your intent is harmonizing. (your "chosen" bus stop)
Maintain awareness of your emotions and be of them, with them. If you feel the extreme terror that can come with these travels surrender to it fully. I truly believe nothing in these realms can harm us without our permission. Surrender to all your emotions, and be aware of what is attracted to you and your geometry/frequency. The "bus stop" you "chose" or attracted with your intent/set, setter, setting, is the visions/geometry you will "see" and feel/experience.
This may be why it seems the realm is posing for you. It is of you. It is you.
Matter seeks Spirit, Spirit seeks matter.
We can meet halfway. Release Your'elf.
Love, Grattitude, Respect.
PUMA
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