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Im not very religious in any real pop traditional sense.
In fact, many of my points of view sometimes contradict one another, the path im on looks like a fractal 8)
Example- I cant bring myself to completely believe in angels....even tho I have had a visitation from one when I was 4 years old.
I had a conversation with this angel about many things (she was in my bedroom, 3 feet above the ground behind my door)
In short-
She told me about the beautiful planet Earth, with its many Animals and people and colours and smells, and how great it all was.
I spoke to her using and adults voice and intellect ( I remember being shocked that I was speaking like an adult ....being 4 years old)
After she told me about the wonderful planet Earth, I responded with "but what about the Wars and starving people?" (I didnt even know what a war was when I was 4?)
She looked at me with 'slight trepidation and responded-"dont question the power of God or you will go to hell"
Then she drifted backward thru the wall...
Now here I am a man.
I dont know if I even believe in angels or a place called hell.
But what she said to me has always remained a mystery,
It sometimes causes psychological feedback loops like, im questioning what it means and im causing myself torment (or hell?)
She showed trepidation in her face, she must be a trickster and cant be trusted.
So my question is, does this statement mean anything to anyone of you>
Im not really looking for existential questions about gods existence or hell, just what the remark means to you.
"dont question the power of God or you will go to Hell"
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Re: A question
Tue, February 24, 2009 - 8:35 PMTruth is I have had this dumb ass Flu for a couple days, and as it progresses, I have been feeling more and more like im on acid.
I keep thinking, nothing really matters or it ALL really matters ALOT.
This Flu has really helped lift my mind out of lineal modes of thinking. Where once I thought of the "beginning of the universal", I would close my eyes and contemplate, as tho looking back thru some time tunnel, Nw I can see that the begining is right here in front of me.
It hasnt gone anywhere.
A standing wave form whole that we call universe is functioning in plain site. all happening at once yes, but at the same time unfolding and revealing what appears to be intent.
Looking at this lap-top, what is essence in "me" keeping the structure of "my" body in tact and held together thru molecular bonds, is also the same essence that holds the lap-top together.....for some reason it is excepted that my lap top is not "alive", but how can that be if the essence that permeates within is the same?
What we call "life" or "alive" is merely a section of the standing wave form whole that is closer to the ( I want to say END or Intent of the universal.....but its hard to wrapp my head around it because its like the snake eating its tail........were about to eat as much tail as we can)
Anyway, Im just rambeling trying to express something I feel but cant really get the point across....yet 8)
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Tue, February 24, 2009 - 8:40 PMha ha i got the flu too, feels like i got hit by a bus... -
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Thu, February 26, 2009 - 8:34 AMThis flu is a bad one, had me in bed for a week and seems like everyone is getting it. I related it to feeling like I was on DXM the whole time, though I had taken no medications at all.
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Re: A question
Wed, February 25, 2009 - 8:36 AMIt could be that you are getting "hung up" on a word. or words.
I had a very similar experience in my early twenties, I felt "drops" hitting my back and looked up to "see" an angel crying over me. Of course she wasn't there physically, but there was no doubt in my mind what she was. She relayed an incredible amount of information in a short time and "spoke" to me as if we had met before. I won't get into specifics here because I'm still (after 10+ years) coming to terms with it, and trying to tie it all together with similar experiences under certain chemicals.
As for the word hang-ups: hell is an absence of Love (god), and angels (gods) are powerful spiritual beings. it's only when you associate them with a particular set of beliefs ie. christianity, that they take on that role. IMHO -
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Wed, February 25, 2009 - 9:51 AMwhoa... drops? that JUST brought back a memory from my childhood that I never thought to question til just now... In the second house I remember living in, no matter where I was sitting... sometimes a drop of water or 2 would land on my skin... incredibly tiny but if you searched for it, you'd see it was there. My mom thought I was making things up b/c there was "no possible way for there to be water dripping on me". Cinn, the words of your angle only reaffirm the thought, for me, that we always create our own heaven and hell in the present. It's all about our acceptance of the present to determine what we make of it. Thanks for helping me remember everyone. :) -
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Wed, February 25, 2009 - 11:34 AMthanks for your replies.beautiful tear drop story..
I try not to associate angels with Hell or Christianit or any religion.
I dont know what they are. I have felt there presence my whole life.
They seem to be the protective ones, who also set up syncronistiys.
I have firends who have seen them also.
I have a friend, who saw an angel whilst on DMT......it was his first time on DMT.
He said the angel kept throwing his consciouness into the DMT world and back to the familiar world.
When in the DMT world, the angel would say "this is death"
When in the familiar world it would say "this is life"
O My friend thought he had died...for sure.
After thinking about all this for hours yesterday, at the hight of my "Flu" I had the impression that everyone I knew was actually an angel, in disguise, acting out parts, pretending to be friends and family, and that they were all going to peel away their masks and tell me this whole universe was some kind of test just for me and what I was going to do with my soul.
Which makes me think,
There has to be a point. The universe must be up to something.
Why would it equip itself with extreme curiosty, blatant evolution.
Put so much energy into creating personaltys, if it all just gets sucked back into the ONE creater essence at death?
We awoke at sometime in our past and were blasted with the realization of this creating force, from then on the game changed.
I say "we awoke to it" but really whats going on is a process that has no parts.
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Thu, February 26, 2009 - 7:21 AMOne question which persists and will likely persist forever is why I've had this constant sense (when I pay attention to it) that something or "someone else" is looking through my eyes with me. I mean, I'm looking through my own eyes all right, but it's as if there is something or someone else looking through together with "me" as well, like every instant of my life. I've had this feeling as far back as I can remember, as far back even as... I've learned to live with it though, mostly by not paying attention to it (oops, I just did). Kinda hard to explain ;-)
Cinn: "I say "we awoke to it" but really whats going on is a process that has no parts."
Ahah! =)
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Wed, February 25, 2009 - 4:40 PMWell yes, I think that statement is the prime example of the type of mind control that exists. And its not even limited to God, you are not supposed to question authority, or government, or even yourself.
I too had a similiar experience at a young age, it wasn't an angel but a friend of my mothers who came and would float above my bed and tell me everything is okay. What I think it is is that when we are children we are closer to the veil, we can see through it and move in it. Everything is really clear, good or bad, right and wrong. But then you get older and you learn about "circumstances" how the lines of what is okay and what is not okay is blurred by the situation, and you end up a confused adult trying to find yourself.
I found your story refreshing a reminder to have imagination and that not everything has to make sense, and that the phrase "don't question god or you are going to hell" could be more of a manifestation of you being a child, and perhaps before that experience, you experienced something traumatic, or something that woke you up out of your childhood and having that angel visit you was a way for you to move away from the veil and out of innocence.
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Thu, February 26, 2009 - 10:11 AMI like that, Whitney.
When I was a kid, the first born grandchild named after my uncle who was murdered by Hells' Angels, the whole family brooded over me with very little actual contact or guidance. They called me magic and claimed they were always learning from ME. I 've always followed my own way. I used to catch my mom spying on me as I stood in the backyard conducting a glittering orchestra of fairies and elves. It was the most amazing music, and sooo real to me. I had no idea this was "NOT normal" and didn't realize it was "NOT REAL" 'till I was taught that in Church.
To this day my closer friends consider me the Medicine Man of our crew.
My sister just walked out and before leaving made a loving comment of me being "wierd" and "not all here".
I still feel like a child, more so than ever now. Bumbling from one amazing experience to the next, eyes wide.
Thanks again, all of you.
Love, Grattitude, Respect.
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Thu, February 26, 2009 - 11:14 AMha ha ha' the bane of enlightened folk' to SEE the world the way it's perceived reality IS' and of who is doing the SEEING!
The elves confer' everything is me' everything is you'
Sing your existence into being'
Us is everything'
Alive or inanimate' everything is alive' it lives within' and shows it's outward appearance by SEEING!
Shine bright'
Be well
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