I think the only way to know, is that we must try both. lol!

Torrey: "nothing else has come close to the DMT. Its like the ultimate key, that we have at this point in our evolution."

Agreed. I often hear folks talk about (mostly the idea of) reaching certain *spiritual* plateaus with no "external" aid whatsoever, which is fine. I respect that. But if they haven't popped their heads into hyperspace, placed the DMT-key in the cosmic keyhole sort of speak, experienced a radical shift in their sense of reality as DMT offers... then they really don't know what they're comparing their (would-be) experience to. DMT, and 5-MeO DMT in particular offers the ultimate confrontation with the eternal self. Can there be something even bigger or more profound? Reaching or sampling enlightened states... by all means necessary. You are not required to devote your entire life to transcendental meditation to experience something which IMHO is everyone's birthright. If it wasn't meant to be, it wouldn't =)

> what do u get from smoked dmt?

A space-time-less glimpse at the transcendental nature of all that is.
An intimate re-acquaintance with the universal self; you.

Answers.
Courage.
Confidence.
Inspiration.
Bliss.
More questions.


Vapourising is the way to go. A glass pipe probably offers the most efficient and cleanest method of all (airway delivery methods). Not burning the material takes a bit of skill and practice. Direct flame is to be avoided (hold flame at a good distance). One must slowly and patiently bring the material to a light boil by moving pipe and/or flame around constantly (thus not concentrating any heat). Don't rush. Heat up your material slowly. Only a glass pipe will allow for as little as 8mg of 5-MeO DMT to render a full-on breakthrough experience with virtually no waste and a minimal degree of carcinogens. Research literature lists the breakthrough dose more at about 12mg. But like I said, skillful 'vaping' will go a long way. With 5-MeO DMT it takes about three deep inhalations to 'lift off.' With N,N DMT, 50-60mg is the threshold dose. This typically requires 5, 6, maybe even 7 inhalations. These are estimates which will vary from subject to subject, batch to batch. With either variant, one will (((know))) when one has reached the threshold point. The general rule is to keep going until you're "there." Monster hits are inadvisable as this may throw you over the edge. DMT vapours are pretty harsh. In order not to cough, one must draw these vapours in very slowly... as slowly as possible, and this while continuing to skilfully rotate the pipe left-right right-left while applying *moderate* heat to the material. Remember, don't let the flame touch the glass. Give the material adequate time to heat up gradually. SWIM typically holds his lighter 5-10 inches away. Again, don't rush any part of the process. This is very important. You wish to climb over that edge so to take it all in at your own pace. Quitting prematurely (or not enough material) and you won't get there. Too much and you'll black out and won't remember much. Just enough -for you- is the way to go. This is not exact science, but for best results one must try to approach this with a meticulous sense of precision. A precision scale (milligram accurate) may come in handy. So would a sitter.




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