brain sand i read about effects dmt production
any info on this and how to reverse it
this saddens me
any info on this and how to reverse it
this saddens me
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 3:15 PMGot evidence?
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 11:29 PMokay
know any cool caves?
I want to conduct this experiment soon.
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 4:48 PMCalcification of the Pineal Gland is not Caused by DMT if that is what you are asking....
90% of People World Wide suffer from this... Your Pineal Gland Produces DMT...
DMT users are very free of Calcification of their Pineal Glands...
Here is a great talk by David Wilcock that goes into great detail about this...
video.google.com/videoplay
De-Calcification
Healthy Eating... Healthy Living...
USING your Pineal Gland...
Yes...staying the dark places helps... Darkness activates it...
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:08 PMTaken from www.customhps.com/Pres_Foc_Pineal.htm
The organ where calcification is so widely accepted that it is almost considered a natural consequence of aging, is the pineal gland. In Japan, a study of 2877 (12) people of all ages, after pathological cases were excluded, showed a 81% pineal calcification rate in people between 70 and 79 year old. The youngest person they found to have calcification of the pineal gland was 8 years old. They found that calcification increased with age. Another Japanese study of 450 subjects, found a 70% pineal calcification rate in people over 30 years, and also found the rate of calcification was proportional to increase in age.(13) A German study focused on pineal calcification in 1044 children found calcification in 3% of children under 1 year, rising gradually to 7% at 10 years of age, and 33% by 18 years of age.(14)
Studies have tried to discern whether pineal calcification is more predominant in one racial group than another. Studies find an incidence of 18% in Iran, compared to approximately 55% in the USA for those over 20 years of age,(15) and a similar low incidence in Nigeria(16) and India.(17) A study in Uganda shows a rate similar to, or higher than the USA, at 43% incidence after the age of 10 years,(18) suggesting that while there may be differences in various clusters of people, the difference is likely due to a factor other than race.
The composition of the calcification in the pineal gland has been shown to have calcium and phosphorus as the major elements(19) and accumulations of calcium associated with phosphorus have been localized in vesicles,vacuales, lipid droplets, lipopigments, and mitochondria of dark pinealocytes.(20)
Pineal Gland Calcification
The important question, of course, is what impact calcification in the pineal gland has on those of us with FM/CFS/OA/Lupus/toxicity, outside of the fact that we feel like we are a 150 years old when we are only 55.
The pineal has wide ranging effects, and affects most aspects of our body's functions. Its most commonly know function is to produce melatonin.
The Pineal Gland and "Brainfog"
In the tasks of daily life, calcification in the pineal gland affects our brain's ability to function. Increased calcification impairs our sense of direction(21) and explains how we can become disoriented and miss a turn off on a road we've driven a 100 times. The effects of disturbed sleep on memory are well documented. Studies have shown increased pineal calcification is significantly related to sleep disturbance and day time tiredness.(22) -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:09 PM
The Questions
We have consistently taken the approach that our focus is to improve our own health and help others improve their health by addressing the root cause of the symptoms. In time, this has come to include other people besides those diagnosed with FM/CFS who have very similar symptoms. This includes people who have been diagnosed as having heavy metal toxicity, and those who appeared to have heavy metal toxicity, although they had been diagnosed with FM. We also include those who have Lupus, ADD, and OA that to our way of thinking are variants in severity of the same symptom clusters.
Many have experienced that the pharmaceutical guaifenesin, a known anticoagulant, muscle relaxant and mild uricosuric agent, has both made their symptoms worse, and in time, relieved them. Others have experienced that Custom Homeopathics remedies formulated to improve kidney function and stimulate the body to release excess calcium phosphates have improved their symptoms. There are no proven theories as to why this should be so in either case.
Dr. P. St. Amand, the main proponent of guaifenesin use, reports success at reversing phosphate deposits in the muscles of those he personally treats and who continue with his treatment. Similarly, Custom Homeopathics reports that those taking the homeopathics for calcium phosphate accumulation have reduced their phosphate accumulation. Neither Dr. P. St. Amand nor Custom Homeopathics employ validated tests or techniques to measure phosphate reduction. Both Dr.P. St. Amand and Custom Homeopathics postulate that, in theory, given enough time, the body would eliminate all excess phosphates. In practice, this is not as certain. The homeopathics have not been in use long enough to know, and it appears that many who initially found the guaifenesin treatment helpful "plateau" at 3-4 years, hanging on to their original gains and not improving further.
The questions that have to be asked are, "Is phosphate removal enough?" and "Is years of pharmaceutically aided phosphate removal or removal by improved kidney function through homeopathics the most efficient route?"
Do we think that the liver and kidney remedies are the total answer? No we do not. For some people they appear to give total relief within a short period of the time. For others, these remedies appear to give significant relief, without addressing all their symptoms. While with time, all aspects of everyone's disease may be improved, we think there must a more efficient approach. It appears that we need to address a further aspect more directly, one which focuses on the pineal gland, as explained below.
In putting together the "pieces of the puzzle" we lean heavily on our own experience and the experiences others share with us, recognizing the limitation of this in drawing scientific conclusions. We also draw on scientific findings, realizing the limitations they may have in helping us understand our own experience. In the following pages, we will try and bring these two - the scientific and the experiential - together, and present our current understanding of the whole picture. We will try to move from the experiences we know, into a theory of why this may be so. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:12 PMPossible Contributing Factors in Pineal Gland Calcification
There may be a number of factors that weaken the pineal gland and thus contribute to its calcification. Some of these may set up a negative feedback loop, which then intensifies the calcification.
The first factor everyone reaches for these days is genetic predisposition, and there is an animal study that suggest this may be a factor.(81) Genetic predisposition could well be acted upon by viral infection. There is one case presentation suggesting a cytomegalovirus may be implicated in human brain calcification(82) and another suggesting a connection between skin calcification and a cytomegalovirus, with the calcification decreasing as the virus subsided.(83) As we work with pineal gland remedies, we will be questioning whether Epstein Barr Virus, Herpes and Toxoplasma may also be implicated.
Once tissue is compromised, and natural balances are disrupted, candida, toxins, bacteria and other opportunistic infections can result. When they do, they further compromise the tissue, making it more vulnerable to further calcification, and thus a negative feedback loop is established.
There is also one bacteria that deserves special attention, due to its role in calcification. In 1998, Drs. O Kajander and N Ciftcioglu came across a very slow growing bacteria, which they called nanobacteria sanguineum, while they were researching something else.(84)This bacteria, so small that it needs highly specialized instruments for it to be detected, protects itself by building a calcium shell around itself. It has been implicated in the plaque that forms on artery walls, and has been found in kidney stones and implicated in polycystic kidney disease. When we first found out about this bacteria, we thought it might account for all the calcium deposits in FM/CFS. However, while it does appear to play a role, and we are addressing it in pineal gland remedies where it appears appropriate, it appears to be only one possible factor, among many others.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 8:35 AMManjushri, thanks for all that info. The last few seconds in the David Wilcock video are hilarious. I can't believe I sat through the whole thing but I actually did :)
Pine cones are everywhere...
Hey, do you suppose meth-users could inadvertently be de-calcifying their pineal glands...??? Heh. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 12:13 PMI would say they have far more calcification... It seems it mostly has to do with poor diet and living conditions... as well a not using your 3rd Eye/Minds Eye... Buddhism that practices meditation with specific visualizations in you mind's eye, would be very beneficial... Though they warn not to over do it... Melatonin seems to help... Also Melatonin increases you life span, helps you sleep, lowers fertility, helps with memory and brain function... AKA Brain Fog...
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 12:17 PMHEHE... David Is a Funny Funny Man...
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Tue, May 27, 2008 - 10:52 AMIt only dawned on me a few days ago that calcification in general is often (if not mainly) caused by a shortage of magnesium. Most folks today happen to be magnesium deficient. Magnesium used to be readily available in our food sources, so in a sense there was no evolutionary drive to store this mineral... In other words, our body's magnesium needs can only be met through continuous intake of this important mineral. Today's "modern" food-sources tend to be mineral deficient due to over-farming. Most people get plenty of calcium in their diet however. The trouble of calcification begins when -in this case- the calcium/magnesium ratio is thrown out of whack. Magnesium interacts with calcium see. So simply put, a magnesium shortage causes an excess of calcium in our system which in turn causes, you guessed it, calcification. There is a whole list of directly related negative health consequences due to magnesium deficiency, such as calcification of arteries, calcification of the nervous system (which tends to be painful), a gradual trend towards becoming less flexible as one grows older... calcification of the pineal(???). Magnesium is simply put a key element to one's longevity. Alcohol for one causes magnesium deficiency. Ever noticed how alcoholics tend to look older than non alcoholics? Food for thought. -
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Tue, May 27, 2008 - 11:41 AMcorrect... I agree with all that... good stuff...
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Wed, May 28, 2008 - 5:38 PMIf anyone cares, there's not a shred of evidence that DMT is produced by the pineal gland. -
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Wed, May 28, 2008 - 5:49 PMActually Yes there is plenty... Didn't I have this convo on another Thread about DMT being a Neuro-Transmitter...
It has been found in the Pineal Glands of both Normal and Schizophrenic Patients in Clinical Studies... I sited them once... but i can go find it and re-cite said studies... -
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Wed, May 28, 2008 - 5:59 PMBiogenesis of 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human pineal gland. by Guchhait RB.
J Neurochem, 1976;26:187-90.
Tryptamine-N-methyltransferase activity in brain tissue: a re-examination. by Boarder MR, Rodnight R.
Brain Res, 1976;114:359-64.
Enzymatic N-methylation of indoleamines by mammalian brain: Fact or artefact? by Gomes UR, Neethling AC, Shanley BC.
J Neurochem, 1976;27:701-5.
Psychotomimetic N-methylated tryptamines: Formation in brain in vivo and in vitro. by Saavedra JM, Axelrod J.
Science 1972;175:1365-6.
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine: An endogenous hallucinogen. by Barker SA, Monti JA, Christian ST.
Int Rev Neurobiol 1981;22:83-110.
The enzymatic N-methylation of serotonin and other amines. by Axelrod J.
J Pharmacol Exp Ther, 1962;138:28-33.
Hallucinogenic N-methylated indolealkylamines in the cerebrospinal fluid of psychiatric and control populations. by Corbett L, Christian ST, Morin RD, Benington F, Smythies JR.
Br J Psychiatry 1978;132:139-44.
In: Wood J, ed. Neurobiology of Cerebrospinal Fluid. v. 2. by Brown G, Smythies J, Morin R.
New York: Plenum, 1983:173-7.
Identification of dimethyltryptamine and O-methylbufotenin in human cerebrospinal fluid by combined gas chromatography/mass spectrometry. by Smythies JR, Morin RD, Brown G.
Biol Psychiatry 1979;14:549-56.
A proposed mechanism for the visions of dream sleep. by Callaway J.
Medical Hypotheses, 1988;26:119-24.
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Re: calcification of pineal
Wed, May 28, 2008 - 8:52 PMWow, so you know how to cut and paste from the Erowid website. Very impressive.
BTW in case you didn't know it, LUX works at Erowid (the web-page you copied your info from).
If you had actually read the papers you cited (I've read many of them), you would know that they don't offer any proof whatsoever that endogenous DMT is biosynthesized in the pineal gland. Most of the ones I've read don't even mention the pineal.
LUX probably overstated the case when he said there is no -evidence-. The fact that DMT and possible precursors have been found near the area of the pineal gland does constitute possible -evidence-, just not -proof-.
The fact that it is found in a general area doesn't mean it was produced there.
It is also found in urine, but I doubt it is produced by the bladder.
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 3:23 AMspinach has high levels of magnesium
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 9:17 AMI like spinach. Broccoli too.
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 2:49 PMSorry Ryan.. But coming from a Guy that thinks you can't make Salvia Divinorium Tea that works... I could care less... Also... I have written several Articles that I now See on Erowid... But as I stated in another discussion about LSH, Erowid is not always accurate.... I Have read every one of the sited studies... Some of them ones I Sited... If you had read them... you would know... Are arguments in favor of DMT being produced by the Pineal Gland... Some Do, However, only mention DMT or 5-MEO-DMT as the only possible chemical in certain steps of daily bio-logical processes... But if you read the top one... They Literally Found it in the Pineal Gland of Humans... Cut and Dry... So, I am not sure what you are talking about... and obviously neither are you... The last one is extremely convincing as a function of sleep and dreams... as it has been observed to increase (at least in the blood stream, of the sleeping patient) during Deep Sleep States... Which as we all know is a Function of the Pineal Gland... But whatever dude... I wish Enlightenment on you...
Om A Ra Pa Ca Na Dhih Dhih Dhih
Om Bhaisajye Bhaisajye Maha Bhaisajye Rajasamudgate Svaha
Om Ah Hum, Vajra Guru Padma Siddhe Hum
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 3:12 PMBTW... Why do you think I copied that from Erowid... Though I have seen these up there... and more... Erowid did not exist when that information was compiled... or when I first came across it in the Early 90s... Erowid only dates back to 95... I was on BBS and Telnet and Alt.news long before the internet was public access and writing articles back then, that are now on Erowid... and Lyceaum... Which I was a Moderator and the 'Ask an Expert" man for their IRC... but that was years ago... -
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 3:13 PMFor Lyceaum that is... and was a main contributer to Hyperreal.com...back in da daze...
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 3:38 PM>BTW... Why do you think I copied that from Erowid...
The citations you posted are literally word for word (indeed *letter for letter*) identical to the citations on the Erowid site. They are also listed in the identical order as on Erowid. That cannot possibly be a coincidence…
BTW, finding DMT in the pineal does prove it was biosynthesized there. As I already pointed out it is found in the human bladder as well. Are you claiming it is biosynthesized in the bladder too?
It is a long way from “cut and dried”...
>or when I first came across it in the Early 90s...Which I was a Moderator and the 'Ask an Expert" man for their IRC... but that was years ago...
When you were in your early teens? Your profile says you're 27.
How does one become an organic chemist, ethnobotanist, herbologst, and shaman all by the age of 27? Each of those professions requires many years of education and/or apprenticeship.
What from university did you get your degrees in organic chemistry and ethnobotany? What group certified you as an herbologist? With whom did you undergo an apprenticeship with in order to become a shaman? -
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 3:41 PMI meant to say:
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 5:03 PMHEHEHE... Once again... Finding the Chemical and all the Chemicals leading up to it... Does seem to indicate it was produced there... Urine BTW has lots of used tyrptamines in it... Most of which are produced by the Pineal Gland.. Or Pituitary... Both of which are controled by the Hypo-Thalamus... A study of the Endocrine system will tell you that it has to be the Pineal... particularly when DMT has been found there, but not in the Pituitary...
How 'bout this Ryan... Go and make some Passion Flower Tea... Use 1/2 OZ per Cup.... boil 15 mins and let cool...strain and drink... Then Take 2-3, 500mg L-Tryptophan Caps and 1-2, 500mg L-Methionine Caps... Have fun with your own personal BioSynthesis of DMT and possibly some 5-MeO-DMT... -
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 6:22 PMHe he he' Bucket of water on the head' or move'~
Move teaches one not to get wet, getting wet teaches one to move' or dry themselves'~
Not moving teaches one that they get wet and have to dry themselves'
Samantics' he he he'
Move'~
Ez nwo'~
Mo'~
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 8:17 PMI have: Phalaris grass, and Passion flower, so, I have: MAOi with passion flower right? with beta carboline?
and with phalaris I have DMT (after extraction, or maybe just juiced?) right?
pardon my simple intrusion.. I only have a small experience, and little knowledge...
doesn't Calcification occure in neurons that hold patterns? This means, if the pineal gland sticks to patterns, then maybe it get's encrusted...
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 8:27 PMYes... with Phalaris Grass and Passion Flower you can make an Ayahuasca Analog... hmmmm... I have a hand crank Wheat Grass Juicer... Stainless Steel... hehehehehe....
Calcification Occurs within the Pineal Gland Itself... and is sometimes used with MRI scans to determine the center of you head, do to the large percentage of people older than 30 that show significant signs of calcification... Yes, it basically gets encrusted...
Mitocondria are the powerhouse to the cells...
translate.google.com/translate
The mitochondria are organelles, present in virtually all eukaryotic cells, which are responsible for providing most of the energy required for cellular activity, thus acting as power plants of the cell and synthesize ATP through the oxidative phosphorylation. Realizan, además, muchas otras reacciones del metabolismo intermediario, como la síntesis de algunos coenzimas . They also many other reactions of intermediary metabolism, as the synthesis of some coenzymes. Es notable la enorme diversidad, morfológica y metabólica, que puede presentar en distintos organismos. It is remarkable the huge diversity, morphological and metabolic, which may bring in different agencies.
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 4:22 PMBTB'~ Move'
or get a bucket of water on the head' then you shall move to create of drying yourself'
Move'~
I was born a Shaman' a chemist a physasist' a biologist'~
As to the practical stuff' I did all of it myself' of myself, by myself'
Care to take ceremony with me' to prove or disprove of ritual'~
I Shaman' You Shaman' if you can see yourself within your own reflection'
Ez '
Mo'~
So excuse my reflection' Bio-synthesise that'~
It is all lipstick' the rest is love'
Bliss'~
I would say from personal experience that DMT is produced as part of the chemical hormone balance of the chemical emotional systyem of the body'
Why'
Because no matter of what chemical I get to mess up the chemical emotional balance of me'
A good nites sleep' or one pipe of DMT sorts it'
So as of when I am asleep, my bio-synthesis system produces DMT'~
It is endemic to my body cos if I take a little or a lot, I get no fuckin comedown at all'~
So yes my body produces it as part of the DMT chain' seretonin'
Ez now'
Mo'~
PIPE'~
Very loudly spoken'~
PIPE'~
Shout it even'
PIPE'~
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 4:46 PMYa... look at Mo'~ here... Genius... I bet he does not have a degree... But my goddess... His chemistry is good...
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 4:42 PM"The citations you posted are literally word for word (indeed *letter for letter*) identical to the citations on the Erowid site. They are also listed in the identical order as on Erowid. That cannot possibly be a coincidence…"
And where did they get it??? We just have the same sources.. and like I told you... I am some of the sources...
"BTW, finding DMT in the pineal does prove it was biosynthesized there. As I already pointed out it is found in the human bladder as well. Are you claiming it is biosynthesized in the bladder too?"
LOL... that is just funny... Though I get your Point... it has nothing to do with anything...
"or when I first came across it in the Early 90s...Which I was a Moderator and the 'Ask an Expert" man for their IRC... but that was years ago...
When you were in your early teens? Your profile says you're 27."
I came across the said cited material in the early 90s... I was a Moderator for the Lyceaum in the late 90s... Yes I was in my teens... Obviously you know nothing of Manjushri...
"How does one become an organic chemist, ethnobotanist, herbologst, and shaman all by the age of 27? Each of those professions requires many years of education and/or apprenticeship."
Correct... I was skipped 3 years and and went straight to college for Accelerated courses in Chemistry... I was studying to become a Neuro-Chemist... But after seeing the nasty underbelly of The Pharmaceutical Industry... Which took only 2 years... I was in a 4 year program that would have ended with my Masters Degree in Chemistry... I dropped out... Finding I was learning more outside of the University...
"What from university did you get your degrees in organic chemistry and ethnobotany? What group certified you as an herbologist? With whom did you undergo an apprenticeship with in order to become a shaman?"
I do not have a Degree nor do I came to have one... nor Did I previously... I am an Organic Chemist... I attended LCC and U of O...
There is no Degree for Ethnobotany... And the Father of Ethnobotany... Richard Evan Shultes did not Attend Collage and only has an Honorary Degree which he only got much, much later in life... After he spent 15 years in South America... he lucked out while working as a janitor at the Smithsonian... Einstein only had Honorary Degrees and was a High School Drop Out... Degrees mean nothing... I am a Native American and was Declared a Shamen at age 12... Seminole Tribe... Though I am mostly Lakota... Yes... LCC and U of O are the schools I went too... I have a Certificate of Complementary and Spiritual Healing... a Certificate of Herbology.... and a Certificate of Alternative Healing... They mean shit... as far as I am concerned... I also a Certified Psychic in the State of Oregon... as Well as Reverend in the Church Of Life... My I.Q. is around 200... depending on the test... I am a MENSA member... But none of that matters.. but you seem to want credentials for some unknown reason...
How bout you prove me wrong instead... you have yet to do so... other wise stop debating... If you have no Proof then you are arguing...
Do you really not know Who Manjushri is?
Om Ah Ra Pa Tsa Na Dhee Dhee Dhee
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 6:22 PM
>I do not have a Degree
So your claims to be an organic chemist, ethnobotanist, herbologst, and shaman aren't actually backed up by anything other than an inflated sense of self. . . That is what I figured.
>My I.Q. is around 200...
Really!!! :-) This ought to be good.
By what test and at what age. Since you are so eager to impress us with you IQ what is your deviance IQ via the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale?
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 6:25 PMHe he he' I know me' I am a Shaman'
Care to disprove me'
Ez nwo'~
I am a organic chemist, ethnobotanist, herbologst, and shaman'
God is my witness'
I can witness to you is you like'
wm' mo'~
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 6:30 PM>I am a organic chemist, ethnobotanist, herbologst, and shaman'
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 7:08 PMExcuse Ryan I am the head of the Illuminati' 972' 6332'~
You wish to take my job from me?
Prove yourself' with of the now showing' without memories attachments'~ for to cause physical change in the now, only by your own reflection'~
Show me this' then you can have my job'~
Illuminate us brother' cos we know nish' ha ha ha'~
Oh my chemistry'
Hey Ryan WTFAY anyways'
DMT is produced in the pineal gland' prove me wrong'~
Ez nwo'
Mo'~
Aya'eee'a'
Of Woe or War'~
Of which be Ye'~ Ey'
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Fri, May 30, 2008 - 8:49 PMAlright, you got me. I'm not the real head of the Iluuminati, Jut the ointer faction that broke away from the main group in 1798.
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Sat, May 31, 2008 - 1:06 PMThe Bavarian Illuminati
Adam Weishaupt
This movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria), by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[2] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[3] The movement was made up of freethinkers, as an offshoot of the Enlightenment[4], which some believe was a conspiracy to infiltrate and overthrow the governments of many European states[5]. The group's adherents were given the name "Illuminati", although they called themselves "Perfectibilists". The group has also been called the Illuminati Order and the Bavarian Illuminati, and the movement itself has been referred to as Illuminism (after illuminism). In 1777, Karl Theodor, Elector Palatine, succeeded as ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and in 1784, his government banned all secret societies, including the Illuminati.
While it was not legally allowed to operate, many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members, including Ferdinand of Brunswick and the diplomat Xavier von Zwack.[6] Xavier von Zwack was also the number two man in the operation and was caught with much of the group's documentation when his home was searched. The Illuminati's members pledged obedience to their superiors, and were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
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Sat, May 31, 2008 - 1:26 PMMONAS HIEROGLYPHICA
('THE HIEROGLYPHIC MONAD')
1564'
I very fine early works'~
The works of Sir John Dee was my quote of the numbers' some folks missed the point of Odo Ciecal Ca'
“[I am] the pen merely of [God] Whose Spirit, quickly writing these things through me, I wish and I hope to be.” 6332' awe eh'~
It would appear he was most deffinitaly correct' Ye'~
Live long and prosper' 32'
Peace'~
Mo'~
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